BRMS -Library device storage slots full (C R)

[Darell Wheeler]

Hi,
 
Usually the nightly backup tapes get ejected in the I/O Station after the nightly backup completes.
 
Today however the backup tapes did not eject in the I/O Station.When I tried to manually eject the tapes by option 7 from the BRMS Work with Media Library Media Screen ,I got a MSGW stating 'Library device storage slots full (C R)'.
 
Can anyone tell me please how to get around this issue so that the tapes can be ejected to the I/O Station.How do I make sure that Libray device storage slots are indeed full and how do I make space for the tape to be ejected.
 
Thanks
Darell

[Jim Oberholtzer]

Darrell:

That depends a little on which library you are using. Usually you can
use the graphical interface (via a browser) to move tapes from slot to
slot within the library. I don't know of a way to have BRMS force the
tape into the I/O station, usually it will put it back where it
retrieved it from.

If the I/O slots are indeed full, then you have to manually go and
remove them (hence the name of the slot). BRMS then needs to have
either the move policy show the tapes moved to the correct location or
you have to manually put them there. Just make sure the mind of BRMS
(the BRMS database) and the physical reality match.

Jim Oberholtzer
CEO/Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects, LLC

Post by Darell Wheeler
Hi,
Usually the nightly backup tapes get ejected in the I/O Station after the nightly backup completes.
Today however the backup tapes did not eject in the I/O Station.When I tried to manually eject the tapes by option 7 from the BRMS Work with Media Library Media Screen ,I got a MSGW stating 'Library device storage slots full (C R)'.
Can anyone tell me please how to get around this issue so that the tapes can be ejected to the I/O Station.How do I make sure that Libray device storage slots are indeed full and how do I make space for the tape to be ejected.
Thanks
Darell

[Bruce Hoffman]

We have this occasionally with a TS-3100... it only has one I/O
station/slot. It usually happens when someone fails to pull an ejected
tape from the slot before the next backup. It can also happen with a
single I/O station if the backup spans volumes in a single I/O station
device.

We just send someone to the tape, have them pull the cartridge and close
the station, then wait. We then answer the message with "R" for retry,
and then have that person pull that next tape from the I/O station.

The alternative is to use the web interface to move the cartridge from
the I/O station back into an open slot in the library. Then issue the
"R" reply.

Either way, it then goes back to business as usual, with last nights
backup pushing it out and the operators swapping the tapes.

Post by Darell Wheeler
Hi,
Usually the nightly backup tapes get ejected in the I/O Station after the nightly backup completes.
Today however the backup tapes did not eject in the I/O Station.When I tried to manually eject the tapes by option 7 from the BRMS Work with Media Library Media Screen ,I got a MSGW stating 'Library device storage slots full (C R)'.
Can anyone tell me please how to get around this issue so that the tapes can be ejected to the I/O Station.How do I make sure that Libray device storage slots are indeed full and how do I make space for the tape to be ejected.
Thanks
Darell

--
"When I die, I want to die like my grandmother who died peacefully
in her sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in her car."
- Author Unknown

===========================================================
R Bruce Hoffman

[Darell Wheeler]

Many Thanks Bruce and Jim.The tape has ejected after the last night's backup tape were pulled out of the I/O Station.I am using the TS3310 Web Interface.
 
I had another question on BRMS.
 
If for some reason the nightly backup tape was not ejected from the tape library.Will that tape data be overwritten with the next night' data when the next night's backup begins?Or will the BRMS Pick Up some other Tape?How is this decided
 
Thanks
Darell

--- On Fri, 1/10/10, Bruce Hoffman <bruce.hoffman-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:


From: Bruce Hoffman <bruce.hoffman-***@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: BRMS -Library device storage slots full (C R)
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l-Zwy7GipZuJhWk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Friday, 1 October, 2010, 12:05 PM


We have this occasionally with a TS-3100... it only has one I/O
station/slot. It usually happens when someone fails to pull an ejected
tape from the slot before the next backup. It can also happen with a
single I/O station if the backup spans volumes in a single I/O station
device.

We just send someone to the tape, have them pull the cartridge and close
the station, then wait. We then answer the message with "R" for retry,
and then have that person pull that next tape from the I/O station.

The alternative is to use the web interface to move the cartridge from
the I/O station back into an open slot in the library. Then issue the
"R" reply.

Either way, it then goes back to business as usual, with last nights
backup pushing it out and the operators swapping the tapes.

Post by Darell Wheeler
Hi,
Usually the nightly backup tapes get ejected in the I/O Station after the nightly backup completes.
Today however the backup tapes did not eject in the I/O Station.When I tried to manually eject the tapes by option 7 from the BRMS Work with Media Library Media Screen ,I got a MSGW stating 'Library device storage slots full (C R)'.
Can anyone tell me please how to get around this issue so that the tapes can be ejected to the I/O Station.How do I make sure that Libray device storage slots are indeed full and how do I make space for the tape to be ejected.
Thanks
Darell

--
"When I die, I want to die like my grandmother who died peacefully
   in her sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in her car."
     - Author Unknown

===========================================================
R Bruce Hoffman
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[Jim Oberholtzer]

Darell:

When a tape expires is a function of the Media Policy in force for that
save. Generally it is listed in days but can by specific date, number
of versions, or permanent as well. BRMS will not over write a tape that
is not expired.

It is possible to append one save onto the back of another save, thereby
saving tape cartridges. I like to use that feature when backing up
journals during the day (I generally will send journal receivers to tape
about every two hours depending on the load of the system) that way I
have one tape that has many receivers on it. That tape gets swapped out
per customer needs but at least weekly, usually daily.

So, the answer to your question is: "It depends".....

I think you'll find the defaults at set at a 14 day retention if you did
not change them when setting up BRMS.

Jim Oberholtzer
CEO/Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects, LLC

Post by Darell Wheeler
If for some reason the nightly backup tape was not ejected from the tape library.Will that tape data be overwritten with the next night' data when the next night's backup begins?Or will the BRMS Pick Up some other Tape?How is this decided

[Bruce Hoffman]

Short answer... no, not likely. Not overwritten. For BRMS to overwrite,
it has to expire first.

Post by Bruce Hoffman
We have this occasionally with a TS-3100... it only has one I/O
station/slot. It usually happens when someone fails to pull an ejected
tape from the slot before the next backup. It can also happen with a
single I/O station if the backup spans volumes in a single I/O station
device.
We just send someone to the tape, have them pull the cartridge and close
the station, then wait. We then answer the message with "R" for retry,
and then have that person pull that next tape from the I/O station.
The alternative is to use the web interface to move the cartridge from
the I/O station back into an open slot in the library. Then issue the
"R" reply.
Either way, it then goes back to business as usual, with last nights
backup pushing it out and the operators swapping the tapes.

Post by Darell Wheeler
Hi,
Usually the nightly backup tapes get ejected in the I/O Station after the nightly backup completes.
Today however the backup tapes did not eject in the I/O Station.When I tried to manually eject the tapes by option 7 from the BRMS Work with Media Library Media Screen ,I got a MSGW stating 'Library device storage slots full (C R)'.
Can anyone tell me please how to get around this issue so that the tapes can be ejected to the I/O Station.How do I make sure that Libray device storage slots are indeed full and how do I make space for the tape to be ejected.
Thanks
Darell

--
"When I die, I want to die like my grandmother who died peacefully
in her sleep. Not screaming like all the passengers in her car."
- Author Unknown

===========================================================
R Bruce Hoffman